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Sun, 07 Nov 2004 9:49 AM

A laptop.....a....mac laptop?!?!

Michael Dale
A laptop.....a....mac laptop?!?! Right well I’ve been a bit absent from the old web site lately. I had Physics last week on Wednesday which was surprising not too bad, considering I only started doing work in physics after we’d finished our school classes ;) But yeah I was fairly happy with it. I’ve been pretty happy with all my exams, there hasn’t really been anything that I wasn’t expecting and everything seems easier than the trials. Nice. My last exam is on Friday (last day of the HSC), which happens to be ITF (crappy computer course) so I’m not planning on studying until latterrrr. Tomorrow ucosty is having a lan party so I am looking forward to that. A good way to start the holidays, even if I’ve got an exam left! :p In two weeks time I will be 18, which is pretty scary. But birthdays are good because you get free stuff So I’ve decided I think I’ll be getting a laptop. But it isn’t all that easy to find something that is exactly what you want. I’ve got about $AU2000 to spend. You can get a pretty beefy laptop if you spend about $2500 but that is a bit too much for me. I am looking at two laptops currently. A Dell Inspiron 8600, a Centrino based PC (http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspn_8600_au?c=au&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn) or an Apple iBook 14” (http://www.apple.com.au/ibook/) Both seem to be about the price I want. I can get a student discount of about $200 so that would be good. I just really don’t know what I want. I would be able to get a Radeon 9600 in the PC where as the Mac would only have a Radeon 9200. But I’d get a bigger hard drive in the mac. I’d also get Bluetooth in the Mac. Both come with a CDRW/DVD, Wireless, working battery (big plus), colour screen (not used to that), 512mb Ram. The PC would be a 1.4GHz Pentium-M and the Mac would be a 1.33GHz G4. I wouldn’t really be using it for games so I suppose the video card doesn’t matter. I’d like a Mac for OS X. It’s built on BSD plus has all the nice mac features. But I’ve been a PC user since DOS 5.0 and the PC laptop would be able to do games (better video card than my PC). I was talking to one of my friend’s dads yesterday and he is a big mac fan and that I’d really like it. He is a power user so he knows stuff about them, not just point and click. I also like the look of the mac better. Microsoft is going no where with Windows at the moment. I’d probably end up installing Windows 2000 on it. I’m not a fan of the XP bloat. Apple is releasing OS X 1.4 Tiger next year, but also OS X 1.3 is really nice. I love the look of Exposé (http://www.apple.com.au/macosx/features/expose/). Argh. So yeah. Fast PC or sexy Mac. Software really isn’t an issue. I do web development, email, music, web browsing. Both have all the software I’d need. I’m leaning for a mac just because I like change. Plus the whole niche groupie thing that comes with being a mac owner. Does anyone have a Mac laptop? Are they funky? There is an Apple shop in Balmain so I might head over there today.

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On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 10:32 AM, Stuart (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote [quote]Software really isn’t an issue. I do web development, email, music, web browsing.[/quote] So this definately means that you'll be using your laptop for work purposes only? If so, i'd personally go for the Mac if you're up for it. Software like Dreamweaver and Photoshop are faster (the former of the two i'm not sure about) on a Mac, plus with Office now available for Macs you can use the word processor you 'love' on a mac. :) I'm actually also looking at getting a Mac Laptop for uni, but probably a PowerBook over a iMac for Graphic Design purposes. 1: Comment Link

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 11:04 AM, Josh Street (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote The Dell looks too chunky for my liking... assuming you want a laptop and not a desktop replacement sized thing, of course. Plus the sub-$2k Dell looks a tad weak on specs... it only ships with XP Home, and you don't get a case (think about included cases... it's worth considering). I like the look of Twinhead laptops, if you're looking for an x86 system, but I don't own one so... yeah. Effective in-store propaganda! Muwahahaha. Let us know how the Apple store people found a new convert later, okay? ;) 2: Comment Link

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 11:11 AM, Matthew wrote Congrats Dale I got $2000 as well. From my rich grandmother woot! For my 18th birthday about 2 weeks ago =). I'm going to build fast computer athlon 64 bit......... Put alpha beta longhorn on it once I build my new one coz I don't have DVD burner + HSC right now. You can get longhorn from http://www.pro-networks.org via forums. Mac's are orininally from bsd kernel but aren't they completely different now? Like they don't have networking abilities of bsd now or they still do? When you have it show us screenshots Dale. 3: Comment Link

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 2:26 PM, Stuart (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote I went and visited a Mac store today, and I was overcome by the sheer beauty of the iMac. That sexy plasticy goodness sent shivers of euphoria down my spine. Actually I went to look at them, and found out what I wanted to know about PowerBooks. I'm prolly going to be getting one of the 12" PowerBooks, but the more expensive one with the Superdrive. Eh i'm a freak :) Where is Matthom? Doesn't he have a Mac? :) 4: Comment Link

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 2:39 PM, Steve wrote I guess the Mac has two significant advantages- 1. the 6+ hours battery life 2. the sturdy design that'd let you chuck the laptop in a back pack and not worry about catching any of those little fiddly bits that PCs have... If I were to choose a laptop today, it'd be the 12" iBook (after working with a few laptops, I much prefer smaller size/lighter weight over screen size - you can always plug a monitor in, or use a desktop PC at home/work. 5: Comment Link

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 3:38 PM, Matthew wrote [quote]1. the 6+ hours battery life[/quote] Nice Macs must use lithion ion batteries even ipods. 6: Comment Link

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 3:55 PM, Michael Dale (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote I've just been to next byte, the apple store in Balmain. I was told that a powerbook would really be better. It isn't plastic and has a faster video card + faster ram. Retail price for the baseline 12" is $2,599. But as a student I can get it for $2287. Also the 12" is meant to be much easier to carry around (as Steve said). So yeah, looks very nice. 7: Comment Link

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 8:03 PM, ucosty (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote You can get near infitite uptimes on a mac laptop :) The darwin kernel ensures this. /me goes to check tibook's uptime 8: Comment Link

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 at 9:45 PM, Steve wrote Gee... i still reckon your best bet is to stay with the iBook - of course the sales people want to sell you the most expensive model, but really - for about 95% of stuff that people use computers for these days (especially in a laptop), they could be using some 3 year old machine just as happily as a brand new one - my point? A powerbook is a lot more money for functionality that you probably won't care about once you get going - just get some more ram in the iBook 9: Comment Link

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 at 10:22 AM, Josh Street (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote Along the same vein of thought, if you end up going for an x86 system, consider just getting a Celeron instead. You can use the RAM, but you almost certainly don't need the extra processing power... 10: Comment Link

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 at 11:58 AM, Matthew wrote [quote]consider just getting a Celeron instead[/quote] I don't think anyone should buy a Celeron. A Celeron can be overclocked well but don't they have bottleneck problems with the cache? Also a lot of Celeron's sold now are like old P4s which don't have hyperthreading. 11: Comment Link

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 at 2:22 PM, Josh Street (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote Yes... and? For most things, there'd hardly be any difference between an old and new P4. You'll be getting 90 instead of 110 FPS, boo hoo. And that's assuming you're a gamer, anyway. ;) 12: Comment Link

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 at 10:09 PM, Steve wrote Ah... but a Celeron in the laptop world is death - you DO (only somewhat) notice a speed decrease in general operating system fuctions (expecially with the hog that is Windows XP)... but MORE importantly, there's a large amount of: a) heat generated b) power/battery draw (short battery life) c) noise (due to cooling requirements) IMHO, the Sempron is a great low-end CPU for desktop machines, and 95% of all today's desktop users would be happy with it - but as far as laptop's go, I'm convinced the Centrino is the only practical solution for x86 AT THIS STAGE... 13: Comment Link

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