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Tue, 24 May 2005 10:18 PM

Ubuntu on PPC

Michael Dale

I decided to give Linux a shot again. I’ve never been a huge fan. Personally I feel much happier with BSD, but UNI runs Fedora Core 3 on most of the FIT computers so I felt I should give it a try again.

This time I didn’t feel like screwing around with installing Linux on my Athlon so I downloaded the live boot disc of Ubuntu version 5.04 for PPC (PowerPC) and booted it on my 12” 1.2GHz iBook.

To boot off a cdrom on the mac you need to hold down “c” as the system boots.

So anyway I’ve been using Ubuntu on my iBook for about 30 minutes and I thought I’d get down my first thoughts (I’ll probably write something more in detail later).

The system booted fairly quickly (remembering this is off a CD) and the first thing I noticed when Gnome (the default window manager for Ubuntu) appeared was that the mouse moved really quickly! Now when I say really quickly, I mean normal speed. Mac users take things slowly, so it was fast for ME!

Anyway the first test was network connectivity through the wireless card. Now I wasn’t really expecting it to work, considering it is a mac and all. Well it didn’t; no wireless. Aww. There is a good post about why it doesn't work here.

So I plugged in a network cable and turned on my network card and picked up an address via DHCP. Fired up firefox, working internet. Easy.

I then loaded “Music Player” and the first thing I noticed was that it seemed to support the iPod. So I plugged in my apple formatted iPod via firewire. Well it worked. The drive mounted and I could read all my music and files. Cool.

Only problem was that there is no MP3 support built in (or AAC for that mater). Oh well, not that hard to install.

sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad

apt-get couldn’t find some PPC binaries towards the end of the install but that didn’t really seem to break anything. MP3s now work, although the sound is really soft (and it is turned up to maximum).

I then decided to put the thing to sleep. The iBook quite happily went to sleep. So I went off to dinner. When I came back the laptop was still sleeping (good thing) so I opened it, bad idea. I got a blast of sound through the speakers, it didn’t stop. I quickly reset it (and no I didn't need to take the exploding iBattery out). Pity. There is a bit of information about it here So I restarted back into Ubuntu to have a last play.

It is a bit hard to work with one button in Ubuntu; probably could bind the keys to something else, haven’t really looked.

Also the laptop seems to be working pretty hard. The fan does come on, which doesn’t happen much at all in OS X.

A part from those issues, it is fairly usable. The system runs really fast. I’m impressed. Video seems to work okay (the iBook has an ATi Radeon 9200, ATi aren’t known for their great linux support). I haven’t tried any 3D a part from the screen saver.

So final thoughts?

Would I use it?

No, not just yet. Lack of wireless and sleep support really make it hard to use for what I do. But saying that, I am impressed with the system. I wasn’t expecting much out of a mac version of linux, but it runs fine.

Hopefully in the future we’ll see better support for the mac hardware.

If I had an older mac that couldn’t run OS X then I’d probably seriously look at Ubuntu.

I think I could get to like Ubuntu, no wait I already like it. I’ll defiantly look at putting it on my PC which should have better support for everything.

Now there are probably ways around the problems I had, but I didn’t look all that hard into it. I did notice that the update system showed a new kernel version (not much use on a live CD) which might fix some stuff. But at the moment I’ll have to leave it.


Comments

On Tue, 24 May 2005 at 10:26 PM, Josh Street (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote Comparing GNU/Linux on a laptop now to five years ago, especially on a PPC platform, makes you realise just how far it's come. Support for laptop components has always been notoriously underdone, but now we're witnessing an increasing degree of support, even on less-mainstream architectures (sorry, but it's true :P x86 still dominates, even if this isn't a good thing!) I had problems with power management with Warty - it wouldn't poweroff, only shutdown then sit on the "Power off" line. It was physically ready to be switched off, but it wouldn't use ACAPI (or whatever that acronym is) to turn off. That's all been fixed with Hoary, and there's now also an option to Hibernate (which I haven't risked yet!). Definitely getting there! I think you'd do better trying it on a desktop, but it's still improving at any rate... 1: Comment Link

On Wed, 25 May 2005 at 1:13 AM, Matthew wrote
Music Player
Try Juk. It's practically a clone of Itunes. :)
The system booted fairly quickly (remembering this is off a CD) and the first thing I noticed when Gnome (the default window manager for Ubuntu)
Do not use GNOME! Use KDE instead of GNOME. KDE scabs Macs GUI features. =p Install 2: Comment Link

On Wed, 25 May 2005 at 9:04 AM, Josh Street (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote
Trust me on this. KDE kicks GNOME ass. The only reason GNOME hasn't died out yet, is because GNOME, is coded in C++ while KDE in QT.
Um. That's probably at least one reason why Gnome is generally faster than its counterpart. On an unrelated note, it's interface is also less blocky. I'd consider the claim that KDE successfully emulates Mac OS interface features to be an insult, if I had any regular use of that platform... 3: Comment Link

On Wed, 25 May 2005 at 3:57 PM, Matthew wrote
I'd consider the claim that KDE successfully emulates Mac OS interface features to be an insult, if I had any regular use of that platform...
The Mac GUI is the best GUI out there. Everyone who has actually used the latest Mac OS knows this. I didn't mean to insult anyone. KDE scabs Mac features, then KDE is obviously better than GNOME.
That's probably at least one reason why Gnome is generally faster than its counterpart.
I have a Pentium 3 399MHZ with KDE. It runs absolutely fine. I just set the Linux-Swap to 999MB and have 1GB for / mount point. BTW, the KDE panel can be put at the top instead of the bottom just like GNOME. =p Here's some statistics. 4: Comment Link

On Wed, 25 May 2005 at 8:16 PM, Josh Street (of michaeldale.com.au) wrote Or, another way of looking at it: KDE scabs features and winds up having a sketchily cloned interface, whilst Gnome integrates and innovates, ultimately producing a more coherent platform. If you're running KDE on that kind of hardware, chances are it's automatically disabled features to prevent it from slowing to a crawl. As for the positioning of the panel, I don't think that's of any great consequence when determining your desktop environment, as most, if not all, systems, will allow this to be altered. On my Gnome desktop, I have a top AND a bottom bar, with a command/quicklaunch in the bottom tray, as well as utilities and launchers, with the taskbar at the top of the screen. I'm 99% sure this is possible with KDE, too. Regarding statistics, keep in mind that the better part of the Internet continues to use Internet Explorer on a daily basis. The less said there, the better... 5: Comment Link

On Wed, 25 May 2005 at 10:45 PM, Matthew wrote
Or, another way of looking at it: KDE scabs features and winds up having a sketchily cloned interface,
Everything is cloned when it comes to operating systems. Including the first Mac operating system before Darwin. Microsoft illegally scabbed off Xerox operating system. While Mac bought Xerox operating system from Xerox. The only thing Microsoft has ever created without copying anything is Windows 3.1. The only operating system that hasn't copied anything is UNIX. There is no such thing as an original interface when it comes to ideas, except for Apple who created the first GUI. BTW, even Apple copied the latest GUI off the Konfabulator creater. When it comes to Widgets and parabolic shading.
Regarding statistics, keep in mind that the better part of the Internet continues to use Internet Explorer on a daily basis. The less said there, the better...
Microsoft is constantly losing shares to Mozilla Firefox. Hello! Only reason most people (newbies) use IE is because a majority of computers are preinstalled with Windows. The only exception to that, of which I respect is due to IE having a footprint with the Windows kernel. BTW, a lot of people use Anti-Virus which slow down network resources.
whilst Gnome integrates and innovates, ultimately producing a more coherent platform.
What the? I thought you were talking about KDE. KDE has far more integrated utilities for GUI, unlike GNOME. GNOME is not more innovative nor integrated than KDE. GNOME is behind in development when it comes to producing what the users want compared to KDE. GNOME is only at 2.10 while KDE is already at 3.4. And KDE developers do not ignore bugs and they release their software more often. GNOME copies basic GUI features. Using GNOME is like being in the last millenium all over again. BTW, GNOME was created before KDE and yet KDE has more users, with more features. Plus maintained more often than GNOME. I think you should consider this: KDE is better than GNOME. Have a problem with KDE with performance and looking blocky. Then add more Linux-Swap and change your current theme/style of KDE which you can easily do. 6: Comment Link

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